Donna: Being a business owner takes a lot of energy showing up consistently to market your business, to serve your clients and customers, to grow it, to become profitable. And it takes a lot of energy to show up for yourself, to back yourself, to believe in yourself and to reach for those big goals.
And sometimes without even realizing it, we might be standing in our own way.
We might be blocked by uncertainty and negativity, maybe self-limiting beliefs, maybe past experiences. And the story that we're telling ourselves is keeping us small. So I have a fabulous guest for you today, Kerry Rowett now, after herself having a life changing experience with kinesiology, she decided to study it herself with the aim of helping others to change their lives.
And with no business or marketing background, Carrie started her business in melbourne, in the CBD in 2009.
And quickly as you'll hear in the podcast became booked out with clients who absolutely raved about her to other colleagues, clients, friends, family, and her business grew. And her secret is alignment.
And that's exactly what we're gonna be chatting about today. Soon after starting her business in Melbourne in 2009 other business owners started to seek Kerry out to learn how to align their energy, to attract more clients and achieve their business goals. And these days, Kerry is known for helping her clients worldwide to create powerful results and transformations with her methodology of align and attract, which teaches participants and clients, how to identify. their, specific blocks, how to get out of their own way and how to align their energy to their goals and in describing and sharing her progress. Oh, sorry, her process. I found myself sharing really openly with Kerry and she went to work on me during the podcast, um, asking some. Really deep questions about how I was feeling in regards to my business right now, after selling a well established business and jumping back into the startup phase of the business that I have now, you know, there was some really deep things that were coming up for me and, although I am a complete open book, you know, I share a lot of stuff quite openly. I wasn't expecting to go quite so deep. So you'll actually maybe sense that I was sweating a bit, really, really vulnerable to. You know, sort of through that process, whilst recording a podcast that I know, you know, shine light on podcast recording I took a few moments to sit down, which I will share with you at the end, because it'll make more sense then.
But this episode was certainly impactful for me. And I hope that it's for you.
So welcome to what will be, i, a very energizing podcast today. She's in business. Welcome to the podcast row.
Kerry: Thank you so much. Me. I'm so excited to be here.
Donna: I'm excited too, because, when we met and in doing the small amount of work that we did together and our chats afterwards, I felt a huge shift in myself. Yeah. And it really has gotten me curious about what you do in the space of kinesiology and the other energy kind of shifting techniques that you use to compliment that, and so I'm curious to learn selfishly how that works for me as a business owner, in aligning and attracting to the things that I want in life and business, but also to share with everyone listening, that incredible work that you do.
And I know that you do this work with really high flying entrepreneurs all over the globe, which is just, so inspiring and incredible. So, um, for one feeling pretty privileged that you said yes to chatting with me today, and I'm also really grateful when I was thinking about jumping in with you today in the technology that we've got this podcast to really share this great stuff into the world and build more awareness around it.
So before I keep talking, cuz I could , can you please share with us, introduce yourself, share your journey into discovering your profession in the world of kinesiology and your business journey. Cause I think it's always great. And I do this with every podcast guest to share your business journey as a woman, as a mom.
Because it's different for everybody. And it's always really refreshing to hear everyone's story.
Kerry: That's right. It's yeah. Every journey is so unique and yet we can often find similarities or parallels when we hear about other people's journeys. So I came to kinesiology when I was a teacher I had, and I was primary school teacher and had come back from living overseas for a number of years and teaching over there.
And I was living in Melbourne at the time and I just wasn't feeling settled. And I thought my life should, be really great. And yet I'm not feeling happy and I couldn't really understand why. So it happened that there was a flyer for a kinesiologist just around the corner. I picked it up and I booked in to see this kinesiologist kind of just on instinct.
And when I saw the kinesiologist. I just was quite blown away, I guess, like you are describing it's like, what is this? Like, how does she know that I feel like this or that I've got this emotion or something really significant happened when I was this particular age. And so I kept on going along to see this person.
And then I used to have this recurring depression that would come and go like from when I was 14, and at this point I was 28, I'd been to the doctor for something else. And I just told him and he said, well, I think you should go on antidepressants. Cause you've been trying everything. You've been trying to deal with this for so many years.
You're not supposed to feel this way. It's not supposed to be that hard to manage your emotions. So I was like, yep, fair enough. I took the script with me. And by coincidence, I had an appointment with the kinesiologist the next day. So I told her, feeling quite defeated about it all, and just said, this is what's happening, I'm gonna start taking antidepressants. And she just said, well, would you like to work on it? I was like, oh, sure, you know, if you'd like to. And so we worked on it that week and then one session the following week, and the depression was gone after that. Yeah. So after that I was like, oh, so this is not just interesting or amazing.
Like this is actually life changing. And I decided, you know, within a few months of those appointments, I decided to study it and it was a big undertaking. It was three years, every second weekend. And it was $20,000. Like it was not a cheap investment, but I committed to it. And then, two years into that, I was able to start my business, and so that is what I did.
Donna: What led you then to going more into the online space and tell us about the types of entrepreneurs that you work with now?
Kerry: Yes. I'll tell you how that started, somebody from Sydney. It was actually a man and I don't work with a lot of men, but he was a friend of a client of mine.
He just said he wanted to work with me. And he wanted to work with me online. And at that time that was over Skype. And I was like, oh, I don't really know how to do that. I have never done that before. And he was like, well, I'm sure you can figure it out. . And so I did that for him and we ended up having maybe five sessions together and he was a very intuitive person.
He said, I've got a feeling. This is gonna become big for you in the future. So it was really interesting and then just quite organically. And this is what I find happens when you're in alignment. So we'll talk more about that. I just started to have people asking me to do online sessions. So there would be a client who was in hospital or that they were at home with a young baby, or they had moved into state or they were traveling overseas.
And so it just started that I was seeing a few clients that way.
Donna: And how did work with kinesiology in that it is like an energy, kind of shifting thing. Right. But when you are online doing it, how does that work? Cause I, this is a block that I , I guess I'm like, but how does that work? If we're not sitting in the same room together where we can feel each other's energy, how does that happen?
Kerry: It's interesting, isn't it? Well, once I started to actually do it and I started to work with clients who I had worked with in person, we were both able to see. So I was getting a lot of feedback along the way my clients were saying to me, look, Kerry it's kind of interesting what you're doing, but it's.
It doesn't really work. Of course I would never have pursued it, but I was getting feedback all the way along. It feels exactly the same. I'm getting the exact shifts, I'm feeling the same kind of energy. So even though our mind might have a story, how it's going, something's gonna be more powerful if we're in person or it's going to be more powerful if I'm actually touching you.
That what I have discovered is not necessarily the case. Okay. And in some cases it seems like it can be even more powerful because you are actually in that space of self responsibility. So you don't believe or feel necessary that Kerry is doing something to me. You have a greater awareness that I'm actually doing this.
Kerry just supported me to create this shift and that's powerful.
Donna: Yeah. Yeah. It's when you put it that way, it's like, yeah, that makes a lot of. Mm. So with kinesiology, is it a lot like the questions that you are asking that taps into the mind that then taps into the body's responses? Tell me how it works.
Kerry: So with kinesiology. I mean, I use a lot of intuition these days as well, but with kinesiology, we are using muscle testing. So the way that I work is when someone comes into our session, if it's their first session, they will have sent me a four minute advance. I will know the different things they might be struggling with and the things that they're wanting to focus on.
So we'll start out by looking at what is currently feeling really stressful. Or heavy or stuck, what's not working and so on. And then we will decide and define what those goals are. What are the intentions that you are really wanting to work on? So for me, that's what alignment is all about. It's you clarifying, what do I want? Not what does, what do I think I should want? Or what does somebody else want or what's right for them? Or anything like that, it's really defining what do I actually want? How do I wanna be feeling, what do I wanna be creating? What do I wanna be aligning myself with? And then I use kinesiology.
I use the muscle testing to gather information and answers and to find out what the blocks are and to find out what it is that you need to help you to come back into a greater state of balance and harmony and alignment with what it is that you desire. So I've always got piles of books next to me, which I do right now.
And so I'm using all of those books and a lot of them. I have lists or they have a lot of descriptions. It could be flower essences of oils, all sorts of different things. And on muscle testing to find out what is the specific information that you need that is going to help you to create the shift.
And in terms of the actual energy tools that we use while I'm a Reiki master as well. So we sometimes might use Reiki. We use a lot of pressure. So kinesiology has origins in chiropractic. That's where the muscle testing side comes from and working with the different organs and glands and so on. And then there is also the Chinese medicine side.
And so that is working with the five elements, which is a theory in Chinese medicine and also working with the acupuncture system. So with kinesiology we use acupressure which is when you hold, um, specific Meridian points and that helps to create a shift in your body.
Donna: Yeah, right. And so I guess you sort of directed the person on the other side of the zoom call to apply that pressure in the spot and, you know, do the muscle testing and then you are watching and guiding them through what to.
Kerry: I'm doing all the muscle testing.
Donna: Oh, you do.
Kerry: On behalf. I do all of the muscle testing on behalf of the client. So I use my body muscle test with the intention that, that is gathering the information that you need. And it's interesting because you'd imagine like don't people question it or don't they doubt it or don't they wonder what going on.
They don't because as soon as I bring up, like the very first thing that comes up in a session, You're in it. You're just like, oh yeah, that's right. .
And so that actually cuts through, and I'm always saying as well, I'm quite big on personal responsibility and self-reflection and you making meaning, and I will help you to make the meaning and to create the connections and to see the patterns because I have a huge amount of experience in that obviously.
Donna: Yeah. Something I, you see that from a, when you're in it, right?
Kerry: Totally. But I often ask you first, what does that mean to you? What does that make you think about? So you are taking ownership of your own story and what that meaning is for you as well, rather than it being kind, something that is given to you by somebody else.
It's quite a collaborative process.
Donna: Okay. So the first part, as you sort of described, is deciding what you want, right. Deciding what you want and if you are feeling really unclear, How do you decide what it is that you want?
Kerry: So that's a good question because it can be really challenging sometimes to decide.
So what we will usually do is start with what isn't working. So if you are telling me, I feel really stuck. I feel really confused. I feel really overwhelmed. I don't know what I want. Well, we start with that. So for you then what would be the opposite of stuck? How is it that you'd be wanting to feel if you are feeling confused?
Well, what's the opposite of that? So obviously there could be clarity. I wanna feel, I feel clarity. I'm aligned to finding my own clarity. And so with anything like that, it's just, we'll often look at where it is now? And what is it that you would like to be feeling or experiencing? So starting with how you wanna feel is often really powerful because when you move into that space of feeling clearer, more like yourself, more resourceful, more resilient, that's when you can make better decisions. And when you can have that greater capacity to say, well, actually this is what I really want. Mm-hmm but I'm just not quite sure if I can do it, or I don't know if I've got what it takes to do that. So we can start to have that deeper conversation, but you are coming from a more resourced place as you're having that conversation.
Donna: Yeah. And I like that because I think sometimes too. If we've been on the journey of motherhood for a while, we can kind of lose that connection to what we actually want, because we've been so busy raising our children and serving our family and maintaining the house. And actually even just going through that transition into motherhood, you kind of there a little bit then if you also juggling a business, as many of the women who would be listening to this podcast, of course, are there's that whole sense of, sometimes it almost feels like you are your business, or, you know, you are the mom, you are the business. And so figuring out what you want as a person underneath all of that, when you're not wearing those hats can sometimes be challenging. So I love that. You've addressed that for anyone listening into how to, if you're feeling like you.
Well, I don't even know what I want. I dunno where to start to figure that out. There's some great ways to do that.
Kerry: Yes. And even listening to things like podcasts and different things and saying, do I want that, like, do I like the sound of that and starting to do those checks with yourself? Do I like the sound of that work?
Do I not like the sound of that starting to build up, I guess, ability to discern and decide what's right for you because you're right. We can lose that. Many people listening would be aware that during pregnancy, your brain changes and what it does is it narrows and narrowing is something that happens so that you can increase your skill and you increase your skill in empathy and care, and being really able to look after this baby that is coming.
And then of course, many of us would be aware that you can experience a baby brain, which they believe is actually just related to sleep deprivation. It's not actually anything else
Donna: On all those tiny . Noises during the night when I'm awake baby has rolled over.
Kerry: Exactly. So understanding that journey that we go through as like to become a mother it's very physical and that can, two years. Apparently, according to the research, I did a neuroscience class on the woman's brain a few years ago, and yeah, really fascinating. So if you do feel different or you do find it harder to know who you are and what it is that you want, like you are not alone because I think all of us go through that and it is a real process.
And for me personally, that process took longer than I expected. I have two children who are two and a half years apart, and now that my. Youngest child is nearly three. I feel like I'm emerging outta that. And I feel a lot more connected to myself again, but that is really quite a long window of time of being in it.
And it's not like I felt bad, but I just, it just felt different and your priorities are different. And the way of learning how to operate as a part of a family ecosystem is really different.
Donna: And just to share an experience from my side, but from a business perspective. Cause I think like the mum's perspective is really important and we can all absolutely resonate and relate to that.
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I'd love to, for you to kind of share with. How you kind of release, if you feel like maybe you're misaligned or maybe you're stuck kind of somewhere, or you feel like you've gone through this whole evolution, whether it be an evolution of motherhood in your, as you said, kinda coming outta that, or maybe it's that you, I don't know, have had to change your business or you've started a business and you're in the next phase, you're going into a growth phase.
What is it that we can do to align? If we are feeling that maybe there's a funky energy going on.
Kerry: So, if you had to say, what do you think it is that you wanna feel right now? Like you mentioned, it just feels a bit funky. Yeah. So what would be the opposite of that?
Donna: I guess the opposite of that would probably be feeling really, I guess, confident in going confident in, I guess, because when you're in that startup and that growth phase, You're constantly jumping into new things, trying out new stuff.
Is this gonna work, experimenting all the time? And so having that level of confidence, which I feel is, is there, like it's under, it's sitting there, but actually to be able to really sit into that and go.
Kerry: I think it's confidence, but also I think it's something else. So what is it that you'd be really wanting?
What would reflect to you that I'm, that this is some big, I wasn't prepared for this.
I'm like, well, we could break through this.
Kerry: So would it be, for example, having a sense of certainty and look, we all understand we can't have certainty. We get that. I work with some clients. Who've got very big businesses. They struggle with this all the time, because there is no certainty, but being able to feel a sense of certainty within yourself.
You already mentioned a sense of confidence. Or feeling like I'm at the next stage or I'm at the next level sometimes of like, I'm something I'm trying or I'm striving and I'm just not getting there stressful to.
Yeah. I was confident on my path or yeah. Yeah. All of that.
Donna: All of that. Mm-hmm okay.
Kerry: So let's just get into it. So is it about muscle testing now? So is it about you being confident on your path? Is it about, is it about being at the next level? Is it about feeling a sense of certainty for you? Is it about feeling a sense of certainty?
Donna: Well, I feel like that word. Oh, my goodness here we are like doing a full, like, it almost feels like a therapy session. Um, yeah.
Kerry: I can't help, but I always have to.
Donna: I think it's certain of being in a brand new business, certainty of being in the online space, there's so much of that as well. And you know, I am gonna be really vulnerable here, like in sharing with whoever is listening. is. In years gone by, there have been moments when my past businesses have been super successful, but in driving the success of those businesses, it's actually had a really, it had a bit of a squeeze on my relationship.
Because you can't be everything to everyone all at the same time and it's gotta air and flow. And I do have, and I've shared this quite openly on the podcast before that my husband and I separated for a while. And although now the business that I've created and the systems I put in place and my own mindset around, well, how.
I manage my business and I manage my time and everything that I teach in the ready to rise program is what I do all the time. And I'm very confident in that space. It works, but you know, it's still a sticking point in me. That's like, oh, but this has happened before. And that certainty, you can never be a hundred percent certain of anything, like you said, but there's that, that is probably one of the triggers.
Or, but that happened, and I don't ever wanna experience that within my family unit again.
Kerry: So is it, I have, I feel a sense of certainty that I can trust myself.
Donna: Yeah. Maybe that's what it is. Yeah.
Kerry: Yeah. Because being able to trust yourself with that solves that, you know, you being able to stay connected, being able to stay attuned to any potential problems that are arising.
Donna: Yeah. It could be. Yeah. You think, yeah. Feels very good. Yeah, I'm getting hot. What does that mean?
Kerry: Well, we'll just, what is the misalignment here? And what we'll do now is just invite whoever's listening, just think about it. Common thing. So the certainty would be something that you can control. So a sense of certainty that I'm on the right track or a sense of certainty that I've got, what it takes.
Yeah. Or a sense of certainty that I will find clarity. So it's not about having a sense of certainty that my business will work out or who knows, or indeed even that my relationship will work out because, or, you know, that it. Whatever it is won't have another bump or something. Cause we don't, I can't, we can't, I can't say that that won't happen, but we can find that thing that we can have a sense of certainty in that gives us that.
So that resting place, that place to land. So let's find out, we'll do a real quick alignment around this, where everyone is for everyone who's listening. Think about what it is that you want to have a sense of certainty about. And I'm gonna ask what is the number one thing that is blocking you? So once you have decided what you want, this is step two.
With creating alignment, finding out what is misaligned. And when you work with a kinesiologist, that's what they're helping you do when you do my alignment process, which I teach in my program. That's what you are able to do. So I'm using a set of cards here and I should be shuffling them. And I'm asking, what is the number one thing that is preventing those of us in this group from feeling that sense of certainty.
Okay. What is coming. Is trusting spirit. So spirit can mean whatever it means to you. And that could be trusting the universe, trusting life. If you, someone believes in God, it could be trusting God, but it's trusting that there is a bigger picture. There is a bigger plan. There is a bigger pathway. That I'm not just here, like beavering away and working away and hitting up against all this uncertainty for no purpose or no reason, or, you know, with no end outcome.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So can you resonate with that?
Donna: Yeah, a hundred percent, because I know that when I do that, when I've done that in the past and just trusted that the universe has got my back and trusted that what I'm doing now is gonna fruit later. All of that kinda stuff with all of my.
Experiences throughout building multiple businesses. And certainly with this one, it always.
Kerry: And when you keep that connection with yourself, as well as remembering, it doesn't have to be that we reach a place, you know, in a year's time. And we are so off track and so disconnected from ourselves and it didn't work out.
If we stay connected to ourselves. We can feel more of those, you know, the micro moments or the, the little things that don't feel aligned and we can correct those and make changes and keep ourselves on that pathway. Yeah, yeah. Of connection and of moving towards what it is. That's really important to us.
So I'll just get everyone to close their eyes. And I just want you to think about this goal around feeling a sense of certainty. And then knowing that the block is, I feel like I can't trust spirit or I can't trust life, or I can't trust the universe or whatever language you resonate with and just feeling where you can feel that in your body.
So would you mind sharing Donna? I'm just trying to tune in. Oh yes. I'll give you a moment.
Donna: I feel like maybe I'm feeling it around. my throat area.
Kerry: Mm-hmm yeah. And what's the sensation that you can feel?
Donna: Just like a tightness, a tightness. Yeah, like a, yeah, like a tightness.
Kerry: Okay, perfect. We'll do a quick round of it together. So we'll just use one point, so one hand using the fingers against the side, the outside edge of your other hand. So the little finger along the side of the palm, you're just tapping with the fingers of your other hand and just repeating after me, even though I don't feel very certain.
Donna: Even though I don't feel very certain.
Kerry: I deeply and completely love myself.
Donna: I deeply and completely love.
Kerry: Even though, I'm not sure if I can trust the universe on this.
Donna: Even though I'm not sure I can trust the universe on this.
Kerry: I deeply and completely love myself.
Donna: I deeply and completely love myself.
Kerry: Even though I definitely do not feel certain.
Donna: Even though I definitely do not feel certain.
Kerry: I deeply and completely love myself.
Donna: I deeply and completely love myself.
Kerry: Even though I don't feel like I can trust spirit.
Donna: Even though I don't think that I can trust my spirit.
Kerry: For whatever language works for you. I deeply and completely love myself.
Donna: I deeply and completely love myself.
Kerry: Even though maybe I'm not sure about how certain things will work out.
Donna: Even though I'm not sure about how certain things will work out.
Kerry: I deeply and completely love myself
Donna: I deeply and completely love myself.
Kerry: I just give a little shake out, shake your hands and your arms.
Now let's create some more alignment for each of us around this. So just closing your eyes and I just want to imagine what it would feel like if you did have this increased sense of certainty and that might be in you being able to trust yourself, or it might be that you are on the right path or that.
You know, what's right for you, whatever it is that would feel really good for you. And imagining you were able to trust spirit where you felt that connection to the universe, the connection to something bigger, you felt like you were on the right path, that you were tuned in imagining how that would feel if you were able to connect to that.
So if you were able to feel that, where would you feel that. In your body?
Donna: Um, I'm kind of imagining like, like a bit of a ha not a halo, but like a, a zone of almost like a big warm blanket, like all wrapped up around my face, my head and my shoulders.
Kerry: Oh, beautiful. It's so funny. As soon as the question is asked I've done this on so many hundreds of people, but people always have the answer it's always right there and it can be so like, it can just be warmth at the heart, or it could be like a sense of openness somewhere in the body. And then I just love that visual or that sense you got, if it's like a comfortable blanket.
Donna: Yeah. Like, almost like just a nice snuggly, really relaxed, calm, sort of, Yeah.
Kerry: So whatever it is that you were able to tune into, knowing that that's an anchor for you, that's how it feels for you to have that sense of alignment with your goal, and even consider coming back to that feeling multiple times over the next few days.
And connecting to that. And if you're trying to make a decision or you are wanting to work on something in your business, coming back to that feeling as a bit of a base point and operating from that space, rather than that space of, for example uncertainty or doubt or overwhelm there, we have it.
Donna: Wow. That was not what I was expecting today in today's chat.
Like, but I'm. That's why all these questions are coming up for me when you are, when we, you were doing the tapping and you were saying particular phrases, and I completely deeply love myself. What does that do in your mind and your brain and your body? How is that?
Kerry: That's EFTs, emotional freedom technique, and it's definitely something people can look up to and go so much further into.
There's quite a lot of research into EFT, which is really nice when you're operating in this space. But what we are doing is we're tapping on certain Meridian points. So we just tapped on the outside of the hand today. But when you're normally doing EFT, you are tapping through specific points usually. And then what we are doing is recognizing some of the biggest fears that we have, or the biggest concerns or worries.
And then when we voice those or acknowledge those and then say, even though I feel that I deeply and completely love myself, We are really addressing that deepest fear that so many of us have is that we are not good enough to be loved. And you're really giving that love to yourself and just making that okay.
And what tends to happen, what most people will experience is the stress on those statements and those limiting beliefs or negative thoughts tends to dial right down. So it is an energy shifting technique.
Donna: So fascinating. Mm. Okay. So what have we done today? I feel like I need to do a recap for everyone who's listening. We've talked about deciding what you want.
And some of the ways to do that is to notice what isn't working. Those can be some really big clues. Then releasing that releasing what's misaligned and that alignment process, which is kind of like, kind of what we sort of just did, is that right?
Kerry: That is exactly what we did. So we decided what we wanted and we just started by saying, what's what don't I want, like, what is happening?
That I'm not. So happy or comfortable, or it doesn't feel right. Or in this case it feels a little bit funky. And then we're identifying and releasing what's misaligned. Yes. So that's when we selected that card, we were asking what. Is causing me to feel misaligned in relation to that goal, I have to have a sense of certainty.
Then we created that alignment with the goals. So this is the process anyone can use to shift their own energy. Right. And aggressive. Yeah. So it's the more that you do it. The more that you are creating that momentum with yourself. The next step is to then take aligned action. So for you, if you think about, you know, I wanna feel this sense of certainty, what is the action that you'll be wanting to take from here?
And the action doesn't have to be, oh, I'm going to go and write a post or I'm going to go and schedule some email. Sometimes it might be, I need to go for a walk in nature, or I need to spend more time with myself. Is there anything that comes for you around this? An aligned action?
Donna: Yeah, I think I'm certainly an action taker within my business.
And so I'm always doing business activities, like always, and I do know that my soul also needs that grounding on a regular basis. And I know that in being completely transparent, In recent months, life has been so busy that I haven't done that enough. And just recently on the weekend, I went to the, and just took a moment to kinda journal and took a few crystals down with me and just sat and I know that I need to do more of that which every time I do it, I feel so much better for.
Kerry: Yeah and then that helps to build that sense of certainty. Doesn't it? Cause you're feeling more connected to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. You've got that greater sense of knowing. Mm. So that's really beautiful. And then the final piece that I encourage is then reflecting. So as you continue this process of creating alignment and one beautiful way to create alignment is to journal.
Yeah. Like you described, because in that process, you often are reflecting. Things that are working and things that aren't working. And as you are writing about that in whatever way, feels really good for you, you are creating clarity and creating clarity, creating alignment. Yes. So reflecting, noticing what is, and isn't working and then continuing this process of creating alignment for yourself.
Donna: I love that, you know, and as you're saying that it is something. It's interesting because in the, uh, when I'm working with my clients and we're always, I'm always saying, like, create your plan, go back and reflect and reassess what's working. What's not, what do you need to do moving forward so that, you know, you can avoid those things from happening again, or continue to reach towards that growth.
And it's so interesting that we also need to do it internally for ourselves, not necessarily on just the business practice staff, but equally important that we do. From our own energetic self, because that's where the strength of our mindset comes together with the strength of our business skills and our talents in creating that aligned life.
Kerry: Right. That you, I speak so much on. Yes, that is exactly right. The way you described that. So I'm sure for everyone listening, you probably might do this really beautifully in at least one area of your life. And it's just bringing it to a conscious awareness. Yeah. And making sure that you are continuing to ask yourself what it is that you really want, because that is how you create the business and the life that you really love.
Donna: Yeah. Hundred percent. Oh, this has been amazing. And like I said, totally. Took a bit. I'm like, oh my goodness. I didn't expect to be kind of totally thrown into the spotlight and digging deep into what I'm feeling and thinking and sharing it with the world, but more than happy to do it, because I think it is really important.
There is transparency in our business journey and in our personal journey, like to a point, obviously, like there's private stuff that we don't necessarily always need to throw out there into the world. But yeah, I hope that in sharing with you today and in being vulnerable with everyone who's listening, that it has shone some light on the fact that as business owners, we're constantly challenged.
In whatever level that we're at a new level, new devil and that it's okay to actually sit with those feelings and actually work through them. Cause what happens when we don’t.
Kerry: Well, when we don't, that's when I will sometimes have clients come to me and they have burnt their business down, or they want to burn their business down because once things get too far out of alignment, if you haven't really been checking in with yourself and asking yourself these kinds of questions and clarifying what feels good for you, what is it that you really want?
Are you creating a life that you really desire to have? If things be too off course, it, it, sometimes you can't get that back in incremental degrees. So it, we do create a risk and that's when sometimes people can decide I'm not cut out for business. I'm gonna go back to my job. This is too hard, or it can become a much bigger thing.
So I really think it is worth our effort in asking ourselves these kinds of questions and doing this deeper inquiry. And we all know that business ends up being this big personal development journey. Every single one of us. And I believe that is true at all stages of business as well. It's certainly what my clients experience, even my clients with big businesses, it's often not so much that we are working on specifics of the business.
Often. It is about how it is that we are feeling or how we are managing certain challenges that we are dealing with, whether in the business or outside of it. Yeah. And building that capacity within yourself is often the most important.
Donna: thing. Yeah, a hundred percent. Like me, I was going for my morning walk this morning and thinking about personal development and how like, I'm, I'm just such a junkie on that stuff, but it is like being a business owner is.
Like, oh my goodness. Like huge on the personal development level, because you're putting yourself out there every day. You're marketing your business. You're telling the world what you're doing. You're wearing your heart on your sleeve, essentially because you love what you do in being in your business.
And you gotta keep showing up all the time. And there's no one there. To tap you on the shoulder and say, you need to do this today. You've gotta think of that stuff all the time and actually motivate yourself continuously, which is all personal development. And so, yeah, it's very powerful. But as you said, also equally important, if not more important, I think in the business journey is to be working on yourself and your mindset and tapping into what's going on for you.
Cause you don't wanna end up, like you said, either feeling completely lost in your business or resenting or feeling totally lost in yourself that loss of personal identity of, well, who am I without my business?
Donna: Well, thank you so much for today. I'd love to know where people can find out more about you, your course, that I know you are launching soon and you've got a podcast.
Kerry: My podcast is called align and attract. So you can find that on any podcast platform, my website is align and attract com and to find my course, you just put a slash course on the end of that. So in my course, I teach you. This process that we're using today, but we go quite deep into it into helping you to lay certain foundations in your business, around being aligned with your big picture, your ideal clients, your pricing, your income goals, and attracting the numbers of clients that you would love to be working with.
And then with that process, you can end up going in any direction that you need to, it can become one of your tools. One of your secret weapons, if you'll so that you are continually. Refining what it is that you want, you're continually aligning to your goals and releasing those blocks along the way.
I'm on Instagram at Kerry row as well. So I would love to hear how you went when we were doing that alignment. It was a little unexpected, but I saw the opportunity and I just thought, why not? This is going to all of us.
Donna: You got a checklist as well that you wanted to share?
Kerry: I do. So if you would like to find out where you are, and maybe I'm not feeling so aligned in your business right now, you can find that at align and attract com slash checklist and that checklist then helps you, like, if there were any areas, the way you were feeling aligned helps you to create more clarity around that specific area.
Donna: So really helpful if you would like to check that out. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. I. What we ended up talking about and diving into there with certainty. I think every business owner, at some point, it's something that rises up. And so I'm hoping that everyone who's listened has got a lot out of it.
And certainly. Knows that they're not alone on that. And that's part of the journey. And it's just about finding the ways that work for you to move through that and into that place of certainty. So thank you so much today. I could just keep going but we need to wrap it up. So I totally could, like, my head is still buzzing with so many questions to ask you, but we'll wrap it up for now.
Thank you so much, Kerry. You've been an absolute treasure. It's been wonderful.
Kerry: Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. You're just such a gift to your clients.
So once we hit our stop on the recording, I took a couple of minutes to really sit with the experience that I'd had with Carrie in recording this podcast for you guys. And I wrote a few things down in regards to aligning myself to feeling more certain. And so here's what I wrote. It's going to work out, I've got the experience, I've got the support and I've got the tools.
I know that it's going to work out. I have set myself up for success. I can, I will watch me. And I share that with. Because if you have also followed along with that process, and if you are feeling uncertain about your business right now, perhaps you're in the startup phase, perhaps you're in a growth phase.
I think that that feeling of uncertainty can wash over as a bit of a wave from time to time as a business owner. I know certainly that there's lots of certain uncertain words coming outta my Mo my mouth. Right. But certainly when I speak to other business owners who are either at the start of their business journey part way through, or are Uber successful in what they're doing and turning over, you know, seven figures within their business.
There is that wave of uncertainty that washes over us from time to time. And so I hope that in being super vulnerable and sharing pretty openly about some feelings that I'm having right now, that it's helpful to you to know that you're not alone and also to provide you with the tools which carry so kindly and generously gave us today in the podcast is something that you can take.
And. For yourself to work through those kinds of blocks as well in aligning and attracting more of what you want into your life.